Phenomenon of the Phoenix
In the late 80s he was seeking success in entertainment as an energetic teen, first with dancing, then with emceeing. Tre recalls the pleasantry of early years with his former Pharcyde partners Imani, Romye and Fatlip. The friends spent nearly five years shopping for a record deal when they landed at Delicious Vinyl, and after releasing their first LP Bizarre Ride II in 1992, their fame came quickly. Tre says of the notoriety "I think we were open arms with it, we were struggling to survive. People were recognizing we had the musical talent. When youre that young the recognition is great. When I look back and listen to the first record, I look at the footprints in the sand and Im proud of that. Im proud of our accomplishments." There have been many reports regarding the breakup of The Pharcyde, and Tre admits that there were several factors that contributed to his leaving the group. "Im sure it can be said I left for financial differences. We didnt really get along with our record label. We were given the opportunity to do solo deals somewhere else, our management worked it out. I wanted to do a side situation for the longest time some things that maybe its not right for me to put on a whole group, the way I think or believe, to explore the live instrumentation. The Pharcyde may have been down with some of it, and some of it they may not" he speculates. After having a repertoire of nearly 80 recorded songs, the constant rejection from Delicious Vinyls staff became too much for Tre to cope with. "We kept getting told our shit wasnt good enough. The label kept turning things down. It was just a huge argument. Getting away from that allowed me to love music again. It allows me to build a better foundation. Im 30 years old so theres no reason why I shouldnt have that foundation." When Tre left the group he signed a short-lived deal with actor Forest Whitakers independent label Spirit Dance. He later started his own label, Flying Baboon, with partner Tatiana Letvin. He is fastidious in his selection of artists to work with, even if they dont meet the approval of the general public. Tres need for self-preservation is key, and he refuses to dilute his inner peace with anything that discomforts him. "Were put on this earth to be all that we can be, not half of it. You cant help that you are who you are. Im not going to extinguish my light because someone else tries to keep me underground. Even a little status is light. Do you want to be controlled by people or do you want to be you? I produced Brian Greens record, which a lot of people gave me shit for, but I dont give a fuck thats my best friend. I wanna do a lot of different things. Who knows? I might even write a country song now," he laughs. Tres step-father was a starving artist with an affection for Hendrix, so Tre grew up with an appreciation for the struggle involved with creative freedom. Tre realizes that the changes he went through with the Pharcyde have affected him in ways that he will always carry with him. "Its called growth. All of these terms are part of the nourishment of the fruit. The past is the past and youre moving forward and doing new things." Legend of Phoenix is Tres venture into an art form he calls "expressionism". He describes it as "just being you and not caring about what people think about you. If you worry about things youre going to tailor things to fit people around you. Its about releasing all things." He, alone, is Legend of Phoenix, but says that his eight-piece band is an integral part of his creative angle. His independent work has brought him a sense of peace and satisfaction. "It allows me to be freer in my mind about my direct business its so powerful, from me educating myself about knowledge of self. When you hear it you will be elevated by it, and thats not an egotistical way of saying that. Im confident and it will radiate. I hope it takes layers off of peoples shells and helps them unveil theyre true spirit. My work is of the all." Tre explains that his thought process never ceases "I have songs in my head and I cant sleep." Tre assures that although some bands have trouble keeping instrumentalists excited about their music, his group stays attentive and involved. "My band members are great musicians. I dont have to keep them excited because its the love of what were doing that makes it work. The people in the band may change, they may stay but they are a blessing." There has been some adjustment from performing with pre-recorded tracks to having a live band. "Things that are programmed sound straight and tight, whereas playing live you can hear the changes. But theres a certain magical energy {in live music}, a vortex opens up. Its like hearing Sly Stone its just a good vibe. Live music is more vibey and wont have the solid hit that programmed music has." Tre expresses a love for The Roots, both professionally and personally. "The Roots set it off for me," he relays affectionately. Current plans for Legend of Phoenix include a show at the Temple Bar in Santa Monica on February 16th. They are also working to set up a gig with Miles Long, a band formed by Malcolm Jamal Warner. The enigmatic group 3 7000 9 shares the Flying Baboon site with Legend of Phoenix, and Tre has recorded with the hard-driving band. Tre is also open to take his act overseas for some dates. One project hed like to do in the future is a collaboration with the Foo Fighters. When consideration is turned toward the prospect of a Pharcyde reunion, Tre relies on philosophical and spiritual theory to analyze the possibility. He insists that fans of the Pharcyde should support the individual efforts of the artists in order to perpetuate the success and continuation of the art they had already appreciated. "If the universe brings us back together then well do it. David Bowie was in a group. Sting was in the Police. Im in my 30s now, when I was in my 20s I worried too much. I think if the people want it that much theyll support what is now. I love Imani, I love Romye, I love Derrick. Theres not a night theyre not in my dreams or in my thoughts. Weve been together for a long time. Were here to walk and to branch off when its time. Maybe these 4 different rivers will meet in the same ocean once again." Fans of the Pharcyde approaching him with questions about the breakup do not faze Tre. "I cant deny we had magic because we had a lot of it. If Im swayed by peoples angry thoughts and am not doing what I feel then Im a prisoner, Im just a slave. I love those guys, but I still have to do what Im doing. Im open to do other things, but Im not open to not being able to do what I want. I answer to me, thats all I can say. I wish everyone well, but you cant put a lampshade on anyone youve got to let them shine." Realizing that following his own advice may be difficult at times; Tre resolves to support his former band mates in every way possible. "What I love about all of us is that were straight honest there was a time in my life that I would run from things. If I see Fatlip has a show Ill go sit in the audience and be supportive. Those guys are my soul mates. Being a soul mate doesnt mean youre always gonna have good days." Although Tre left Imani and Romye to their own devices with the marketing of Plain Rap, he professes that the project is artistically competent. "If people take their time and listen to it, its really good." He remarks that he enjoys Fatlips new project. "Hes an incredible writer so is Imani." He has had conversations with Romye, who told Tre that crowds have been receptive to the new presentation The Pharcyde is coming with, not really caring that the dynamics have changed. "I think the Pharcyde is its own phenomenon. Its beautiful to have been a part of it. The Pharcyde will never die. Im amazed every time I go places- the oddest places - and hear people talk about it. Its all a blessing." With any luck, Tres trek into the wilderness of Self will progress beyond the bounds of his own introspection, and will reach out to the fans who are eager to grasp his concepts, as well as to the friends who played a role in his revelation. The carefree days of B-boying and Bizarre Ride may be over for Tre, but the Legend of Phoenix offers the opportunity for his ascension into a haven of artistic bliss.
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