October 10 2002

*Father of X-Clan Leader is Ill
*Funeral details for Cold Crush Brother Money Ray
*Hip Hop Quiz 2
*Interview w/ Dot-A-Rock of Fantastic Romantic Five by Troy L
*Hip Hop Quiz 1 w/ Answers by Mark Sillz & Davey D
*Battle of the Elements
*Cali-Com Tour Kicks Off

The FNV Newsletter c 2002
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First things first..  we wanna send our prayers out to long time
activist and freedom fighter Sonny Carson.  He's the father of
Professor X of X-Clan.  We got word earlier this week that he is in
the hospital seriously ill.  We wanna offer prayers for a speedy
recovery and strength for PX and his family.

Carson illness comes just as the DVD re-release of "The Education Of
Sonny Carson" coming out.  The original was released in 1973.  Now in
DVD format.  There's an organization in Brooklyn that's hosting a
viewing reception on October 24th from 4pm-6pm.  More info to follow..

Second thing is we wanna again express our condolences to the family
of Money Ray and the Cold Crush Brothers.  Here's the info on his
funeral as written by the remaining memebers of the Cold Crush

"The wake and funeral for Eric Hoskins will take place, one after the
other, this Friday, Oct.  11th, 2002 at Grandby's Funeral @ 4021 White
Plains Road (between 226 & 227th) Bronx NY 10466 (718-519-6047).  Take
the 2 train to 225th St.  His wake is from 4-7 pm and funeral from 7 -
8pm.  If you can't make it and want to send flowers please forward
them to the address for the funeral home, above.  On the following
Tues.  his family will hold another funeral for him in Charlotte NC,
his final resting place.  The Cold Crush would like to send their
thank you's to eveyone who called, e-mailed and posted on the site.  "
We appreciate your repect."  - Cold Crush



A few weeks ago we issued a Hip Hop Quiz I Many of y'all tried..Most
of y'all failed...  We had two winners.  who got all the answers

Congratulations to DJ Paradise of X-Clan and MP3.com and Shock G from
Digital Underground.  They were up on their Hip Hop History...  [see
Hip Hop Quiz answers].  We made this week's quiz a bit easier..We
wanna make sure you get off to a good start since we are going to
start officially grading cats This and posting up your scores or lack
of scores for all to see...

Also we wanna give major props to my man Troy L who tracked down Hip
Hop Legend Dot-A-Rock and gave us an insightful interview.  Next week
we will share with you words of wisdom from Kurtis Blow.  Also make
sure you do well on this 'easy' quiz cause Hip Hop pioneer Popmaster
Fabel of the Rocksteady Crew will be issuing next week's test and
trust me it will humble you.

by Davey D

1-What Rapper did the song 'Square Dance Rap?

2- What rap star kicked these famous lines....

I used to live downtown, 129th Street
Convent, everything's upbeat
Parties, ball in the park
Nothing, but girls after dark
We chill, nobody gets ill
In the place we call the hill
But if you try 'em
That's when they will
Get wild, but they don't fight, they kill
At the...

[lyrics courtsey of OHHLA.com]

3-In the Movie 'Beat Street', what was the name of the character who
played the graf writer who got killed toward the end?

4-Before WC hooked up with Ice Cube and the Westside Connection what
was the name of his first group and who was in it?

5-Who did the song One Time Gaffle 'Em Up?

6-What famous rapper kicked these rhymes?  What was the name of the

I smoke on the mic like smokin Joe Frazier
The hell raiser, raisin hell with the flavor
Terrorize the jam like troops in Pakistan
Swingin through your town like your neighborhood Spiderman

[[lyrics courtsey of OHHLA.com]

7-Ice T has appeared in over 40 TV and movie projects..  What was his
first movie?

8- What famous rapper dropped these lyrical bombs on Tribe Called

Once again it's on!
You nigga's tried to dis me
You missed me
Chill G, For real G
Man u nigga's kill me
Tryin to knock me off the top
Yo there's no contest G in the market
Ya'll hata's never get at  me
As I deliver, hits too make em quiver
Make em shiver, Q-tip couldn't flow if he was a river
And me, I'm sellin milli like runnin the mill
And like Big Daddy Kane "I Wonder How You Gotta Record Deal"
Well everyday too make hits, you ain't got it
Til this day you never ? never had it
For me I tend to kick it like a partner
And must I remind you I'm the funky headhunter
I understand u bout as man as Rupaul
I come on your block and move you out like a U-Haul
So step right up and be the next contestant
A Tribe Called Quest Is A Bad Investment
I'm breakin em off with somethin proper!

[lyrics courtsey of OHHLA.com]

9-Who were the original members of Freestyle Fellowship?

10-Name 5 rappers who have had their own or were featured in their own
weekly TV shows or sitcoms

send answers to Hip Hop History Quiz


by Troy L

Troy L.- Where did your name Dota- Rock come from?

Dota- Rock- The name came from a candy called Mason Dots.  They were
like ju ju fruits.  My last name is Mason so I took the name Dot.  I
originally started out as Dottie Dot, I wanted to get more rawer so I
went Dota Rock!

Troy L.- Who inspired you to want to M.C.?

Dota- Rock- M.C.  Geronimo of the crew called Chaos from up in
Edeamore [Edenwall] projects here in the Bronx.  That was 1974.

Troy L.- Who was the first D.J. you heard?

Dota Rock- Breakout, He was known back then for having a lot of
plates.  Then came Flash.

Troy L.- How did you and Whip, Caz and J.D.L. meet?

Dota Rock- Whip and Caz was coming through my projects the Twin Parks.

They had with them there school brief cases with thier names written
on the side and a Radio that we called a Box back in the days, one of
them joints with 2 mics on the sides.  they started rocking the crowd
by just playing one of there tapes.  That's how we got cool.  We ended
up all going to Roosevelt H.S..  I met J.D.L.  going for try outs to
be with the Mighty Force.  So I was on my way to D.J.  A1 Mighty
Mike's house for the try outs.  The way me and the L.  met was he too
was looking for the same house.  So we walked past each other twice
until he walked up and asked me were the building was at that he was
looking for.  When he told me the address I started laughing he did
also when he realized that it was the same address.  So we went up the
same time and made the crew the same time.

Troy L.- Who were the players in the Mighty Force?

Dota Rock- Me, Whip, Caz, R.C.  and J.D.L.  and the D.J.s were Caz,
Mike Swat and A1 Mighty Mike.  Big Bank Hank (before Sugar hill gang)
was our manager.  Back in those days there really wasn't any routines
just rocking on the mic saying your lyrics.  One night we were
supposed to battle the L-Brothers at the Audubon but our system broke
down on us.  Me and Whip stayed there about 2 years and broke out.

Troy L.- Where did you and Whip go to next?

Dota Rock- We went to the Cold Crush next.  It was Chase, A.D.  and
Mr. Tee.  We went to the Crush cause they had a better system and did
better party's which meant better money.  We also had contracts that
said we did not have to carry equipment any more.  We left them after
2 years.  While with the Crush we would do parties with the L.
Brothers, and me and Whip were on top of our game so we use to kill
parties that the L.  Brothers were at.  So they approached us and
asked if we would like to be down.  Man they were doing better shows
so you know that meant better money.  We went from 2 dollars a man
with the Mighty Force, thats because parties were costing a buck back
then, to $20 a man with the Cold Crush.  Then $100 a man with the
L-Brothers and Fantastic.

First we ran with the L-Brothers that consist of Mean Jean, Claudio
and D.J.A1 Mighty Mike and me and Whip.  Theodore by now was doing his
own thing with him, Kevie Kev, Master Rob and Busy Bee.  Now Ruby Dee
lived in the same building with Busy Bee so that's how he got the
juice to be down with Fantastic later.  Which was soon because Busy
and Kev use to argue a lot and that started back from them growing up
together from little boys.  So Busy Bee chose to step out on his own
and that's how Ruby got on.  Even when Busy went solo he would still
come back to rock with us.  Then it didn't take long before we
combined with them and became the Fantastic Romantic 5 M.C.s

Troy L.- How would you describe each M.C. of the crew?

Dota Rock- Kevie Kev was the captain and lady's man.  Master Rob,
Kev's brother was the baritone smooth talker.  Me I was the story
teller, with fast rhymes.  Whip was off the top of his head going with
the flow as well as a story teller.  Ruby Dee was just the most
skilled Puerto Rican M.C.  as well as the most well known.  Kev also
collected the money and had a pretty good knuckle game so we never had
a manager but we kept our guns right up on the stage with us.

Troy L.- What about the back up to Theodore, Kevie Kev Rockwell?

Dota Rock- Kevie Kev was the backup but very important to us!  He
would set up all the records for Theodore while he was D.J.ing.  Also
he warmed up the crowd as well as the equipment before the actually
show.  Being as Theodore was serious about this, it was hard for
Rockwell to get light because Theodore would be at every show just

Troy L.- Was there a time when the Fantastic 5 was suppose to battle
the Crash Crew?

Dota-Rock- Yes.  We did some shows with them and at the time thier
record High Powered Rap was out and they played it at every show we
did with them.  Being as the record was good, doing good they thought
they were hotter then us.  One night we had a few words with Darrell C
and I think G- Man.  So we set a date to battle them but they did not
show.  I guess they knew we were ready to tear ass!  We did battle
some kids from Yonkers, The Devastating 4 and we tore ass!

Troy L.- What started the battle between the Fantastic and Cold Crush?

Dota-Rock- J.D.L.  one night was saying they were the best and Busy
was like Fantastic could take yall out.  So they were riffin' about
that.  One day we passed by Caz's house while they were practicing and
they seen us out the window so they came out side and started arguing
which turned into a bigger argument.  I couldn't believe it myself
because we were all friends.

Troy L.- Where did Theodore get the idea to use the handcuffs in the

Dota-Rock- Theodore use to always be playing with them in practice.
So one day he says "Yo man I'm going to do this at the show".  I said
" you that nice you might as well, go ahead and do it'.

Troy L.- Did the Hip hop world want to see another battle between

Dota-Rock- With out a doubt, many people wanted to see it again.
There was people still believing we won and there were many others
that felt the Crush won.  But it didn't take long before Kev went on
to the Furious 5 and Whip later went in to the Navy.

Troy L.- What made Kev leave for the Furious 5

Dota-Rock- We were loading up our bus to do a show in Poughkeepsie and
out of nowhere Kev says he is not going.  We start buggin.  It became
a very touching moment for us.  Me being the writer of the crew, I
always had him included in all the routines so we were like "what are
we going to do now".  From that day on we were never the same.  Later
on he did come back because his brother Rob was still in the crew so
that left a door open for him.  Nobody could take his place anyway.
What happened was Kev took the Kid Creole spot.  Creole was going
through some personal problems so being as Kev was light skin about
Creoles complexion he took Creoles spot.  That is exactly what he did.
Kev's name to the public was the Kid Creole Kev could not get burn as
him self.  Man there was a time were we used to go on tour with some
of the Sugar Hill acts and the Funky 4 had a date in South Carolina
and they couldn't show for what ever reason Sylvia Robinson wanted us
to act like we were the Funky 4.  We didn't do it but that goes to
show you how game tight she was.

So back to Kev.  The Sugar Hill was blessing him with thousands of
dollars but now Creole is ready to come back.  They might not have
planned for this or what ever but they had to let Kev go.  So thier
way of thanking him was a one cut deal.  There you have the "All night
long" single for Kev and no more.  We were approached by Sylvia to get
on her label but we heard too many horror stories.  There would be
times we be rockin in the T- Connection or the P.A.L.  and the Funky 4
or Treacherous 3 would be there and they couldn't perform live because
they were under contract to Sylvia Robinson.

Troy L.- What was the difference between the Bronx crowd and the
Manhattan Crowd.

Dota-Rock- The Bronx crowd was hearing hip hop many years before
Manhattan so they pretty much was use to it so they were into
partying, dancing.  The Manhattan crowd would sit there and listen
closely to your shit and give you the love that you were looking for
and react to your rhyme they way you made it to be reacted to.  I
loved Manhattan.  The clubs that I really dug was the Celebrity Club
and Harlem World there was a funky flavor crowd plus they had some
beautiful women.

Troy L.- Where was the roughest club?

Dota-Rock- The Armory in Do or Die Bed Stuy Brooklyn.  We come one
night in a limo and it's very crowded in front of the entrance so we
can't get in.  The promoter comes outside and says "Oh no I have to
get yall in" So he says hold on and pulls out two guns and starts
bustin off into the air.  The crowd turns around and looks at him like
what the hell is wrong with this fool and continues on doing what they
were doing.  So he finally gets us in there and the Armory is jammed
packed to the walls.  So they lead us up to the dressing room tell us
don't worry about nothing they got our back.  So we chill because Dr.
Jeckle and Mr. Hyde are on stage.  So after awhile me and Whip is like
lets go out and peep the crowd see how they get down.  Kev screams out
the dressing room door you better stay here were it's safe.  I told
him we ain't scared of anybody.  In the back of the Armory brothers
are shooting dice and this kid pulls out two guns talking about
"Nobody move that's my money".  Niggers is getting robbed in the
corner you go in the bathroom mother fuckers is getting robbed there.
Just heathens even the chicks looked like dudes.  All this was right
inside the Armory.

Troy L.- So it was similar to the parties in the Bronx?

Dota-Rock- No it was Rougher.

Troy L.- What about the thugs in the Bronx?  Did they try to push up
on yall?

Dota-Rock- When it came to thugs in the party's we kept it up front
with them soon as we seen them we would say thier name on the mics so
they didn't have to ask (or tell us).  The Ching Aling Gang told us
(when we were with the Cold Crush) if you don't say our name every 5
minutes we are going to take all your equipment out of here and keep
it.  See you had to look at that as that was how they were, and we
were the music.  So they would not go too far because if we were gone
then there would not be any music.  And they were not having that.
They may act funky with us but nobody else would bother us because the
Ching Alings would go to war for us.  Mele Mel and Flash had the
Casanova's back then and when we were the L-Brothers we had the 9 Crew
backing us.  The 9 Crew and The Casanova's were rivals like the bloods
and crips.  As we all got older that intimidating played out, we knew
everybody.  They still had marks but they knew who to do it to and not

Troy L.- What about the promotor's of the shows?

Dota-Rock- Jerry Blood Rock was a good promoter, Mandiplite was also
good.  He use to pay us up front before we performed.  There were
other good ones then there were guys like Ray Chandler who you had to
be on your P's and Q's because he was straight gangster he was an
ex-cop and Casanova had his back.

Troy L.- Why did the Fantastic 5 change your name to Fantastic Freaks?

Dota-Rock- We wanted to start doing something different.  The girls
always loved us.  In our routines we at times humped the floor.  This
is also during the time when Kevie Kev came back.  Since he did that
record called "All night long" it labeled us just right.

Troy L.- How did the Fantastic 5 go about doing your record "Fresh out
the Pack"?

Dota-Rock- A gentleman by the name of Johnny Soul talked to us about
doing a record on his independent label.  He was a decent man and he
gave us some good ideas.  So we did the record.  It sold pretty good
here in N.Y.  Mr. Soul also had a tour bus for us with our name on the
side of it.  Mr. Soul died before we could do a second record.

Troy L.- Where did "My mic sound right check one" come from and how
did the Fantastic feel about the girls "Salt and Pepper" using it?

Dota-Rock- Kevie Kev made that up.  He got tired of saying "one two,
one two

checking the mics.  We never really got a chance to meet Salt and
Pepper but we met Herbie Luv Bug thier manager and producer.  He came
to one of our shows one day with a bunch of body guards and told us he
really admired our music and he was a big Dota- Rock fan.  We just
looked at him and said thanks and walked away.  We really didn't
appreciate him using "my mic sounds right check one" with out
permission.  That was not the only thing he stole, there were other
routines that we wrote he used for the girls.

Troy L.- How did Fantastic get on with the Wild style movie?  And what
was the pay like?

Dota-Rock- Well we were the hottest group.  So Charlie Ahearn and Fab
5 Freddy came to one of our shows and asked us if we would like to be
in the movie, we said sure.  They paid us $1000 a man each set we did
for the movie.  That set we did in the basketball courts was at 7:00
in the morning.  Us and the Cold Crush did shows that night before the
game so we never went to sleep, everyone looks tired.  If you look
close enough I still have on a collar shirt under my sweat shirt from
the night before at the party.

Troy L.- How do you feel about Hip Hop today?

Dota-Rock- Hip Hop is Hip Hop but it's not Hip Hop from before its
more practiced, more gangster, its more record.  It's not enough
imagination.  I think the gangster took a lot out of Hip Hop.  I enjoy
some of the records now but that's all it is records.  It's not an art
any more.  I hear brothers freestyle and say the same thing like the
next man talking about he goin' to pull out his glock.  Blazy blah
what he goin' to do on the block.  Any body can do that.  But he's
just promoting violence.  I don't see anything party about that.
There's no skill there.  If you don't have a dope beat behind what
your saying it don't mean shit because no one's going to buy it.  The
majority of it is gangster and I am getting tired of it I think it is
killing Hip Hop.  I never talked about killing in my rhymes in fact no
one did in those days.

Troy L. Who do you dig today as an M.C.?

Dota-Rock- L.L.Cool J.  I like the way he gets on that Gangster but
gets right off of it.  He's able to be versatile and has longevity.
Even though he breaks out for movies or his show he still comes back
and lays down his rhymes good.  I checked him from day one I even went
to his Raising Hell tours.  That's who I think is a great m.c.

Troy L. Are you finished with Hip Hop? Do you still write?

Dota-Rock- I have always wrote but I took a couple years off to be
closer with my family and just chill and collect my thoughts.  Now its
back on.  I am always Dota-Rock but I am Darrell Mason first.

Troy L.- ONE.  TROY L.  from HARLEM   2002 Troy L.  Smith No part may
be reproduced without authors permission.



1. Name the 2 dee jays for the Funky Four Plus One?
A. DJ's Breakout and Baron

2.  What was the name of the rapper who gave us the classic song
'Super Rhymes Rap'?  A: Jimmy Spicer

3. Name 2 dee jays that spun for DJ Hollywood?
A: DJ's Junebug and Lovebug Starski (Flash counts as well)

4-Before Salt-N-Pepa came along there was an original male dou known
as Salt-N-Pepa.  In fact the song 'My Mike Sounds Nice' came from a
routine this male S&P did.  Who was the original Salt-N-Pepa?  A:
Whipper Whip & Dot-A-Rock

5.  What record did Hurby LoveBug sample for 'the female' Salt and
Pepa's classic "My Mike Sounds Nice"?  A:Mister Magic - Grover

6. What famous rapper was known as 'The Son of Kurtis Blow'?
A: DJ Run

7.What record did Marley Marl sample for the Juice Crew classic "The
A: Marley Marl

8. Name Craig Mack's first record
A: Let's Get Retarded

9.  Hip Hop pioneer Kool Herc had a massive sound system which
included 2 huge speakers.  What was the name given to those speakers?
A: Sasquatch

10.  Name the Hip Hop artist who has put out more full length albums
then anyone else?  A: Too Short-13

Bonus 11.  What was the name of the artist that did Super Sporm was a
classic break beat..  What was the name of the album that the cut
Super Sporm was on?  A:Captain Sky..  The Adventures of Captain Sky


Oct 18th-20th: Tribute to the Elements 2002 (San Francisco) BLUEPRINT,
ITF US Championships, ITF Categories, and Battle Kings 2002 B-Boy
Championships presented by Mixwell, Hip-Hop.com, FTC Skate, ITF and
Rock Steady Crew

Friday,Oct.18: BLUEPRINT @ Mission Rock 817 China Basin SF,CA.
9pm-5am FEAT.  NYC's....JERU DA DAMAGA.  and THE 2002 ITF USA DJ
CHAMPIONSHIPS.  ITF's Top 8 regional DJ champions (from across the
nation) battle for the USA ITF Title.  The USA Champion will be flown
to Germany to represent the USA at the 2002 ITF World Championships
held on November 16th in Munich Germany.  Also Performing: 21+ 5 room
hip-hop/dancehall all night to the break of dawn!

Sat.  Oct.  19th: "FREE" Hip-Hop/Skate show.  @Walenberg HS Park
Located Masonic and Turk.  ALL AGES 12 to 6 pm.  FEAT.2002 ITF
Category DJ Finals.  Each champion of Scratching, Beat Juggling and
Teams Categories will advance to the ITF World Finals in Munich
Germany) Free hip-hop concert, MC BATTLE and Skate Demo hosted by THE
Fun Box TOUR, FTC Skate and the SF Skate Coalition.  All Demo ramps
will be accessible to the public skate and ride.  During the skate
demo a hip-hop concert will be in full effect with an incredible
line-up of performers.  Raffles & Give-a-ways.  MC Battle!  To enter
MC BATTLE CALL 415-334-1387

Sunday.Oct.20th: Battle Kings 2002 B-Boy Championships.ALL AGES
4pm-11pm @City Nights 715 Harrison & 3rd St.  Hosted and judged By
Crazy Legs, EZ Roc, and Zulu Gremlin.  Battle starts at 6:00 sharp.  4
on 4 Team Battle for 1000.00 Cash & Prizes.  B-Boy performance by
Break Beat Assassins.  To enter contact bboymasters@aol.com.


San Francisco, CA-Om Records announces the Cali-Comm tour featuring
People Under the Stairs!!!  The hip-hop focused Cali-Comm Tour, now in
its second year has previously featured California based powerhouse
w/ MOTION MAN.  This years' lineup is equally impressive and turns up
the heat a notch with featured acts DEL THE FUNKY HOMOSAPIEN, PEOPLE
(10/10-10/18, 11/16-11/25), SKHOOLYARD featuring PLANET ASIA
(10/19-11/15) AND LIFESAVAS (Quanuum).  Packed with the spirit of
bumpin' beats, crackin' cold beverages, diggin' through the crates and
smokin' fat blunts, PUTS' live performances are sure to take us back
to a time when hip-hop was about real life.  With recent broadcasts
across the U.S.  and Europe from the BBC to LA's Power 96, charting in
CMJ, Insomniac, hiphopsite.com and more, PUTS take the stage for their
largest U.S.  tour to date!!!  Stay tuned to
www.peopleunderthestairs.net for all updates!  and tour dates..

TOUR DATES (also featuring Del, Motion Man & Kutmasta Kurt and the
Lifesavas) *Dates with a (*) represent those which feature Skhoolyard
in place of Motion Man & Kutmasta Kurt

For more information on PUTS please contact:

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